Lily Tomlin enters 'The West Wing'
Tuesday, October 8, 2002
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The mourning period was suitable. It's been more than a year since beloved White House secretary Dolores Landingham was laid to rest on "The West Wing."
Still, we would be ready to resent just about anyone who tried to replace Mrs. Landingham. As played by Kathryn Joosten, she was not only a moral bulwark for Martin Sheen's President Bartlet but a real pistol to boot.
Then Lily Tomlin walked in as Debbie Fiderer and the world was right again. Smart, gutsy and eccentric, Fiderer promises to keep Bartlet on his toes. And Tomlin, once again, reminds us what a treasure she is.
But don't try telling her that. The actress, acclaimed for her early "Laugh-In" comedy, dramatic turns in "Nashville" and other films and her ambitious one-woman plays, is a model of modesty.
She's also a charmingly haphazard storyteller and the possessor of one of the great celebrity smiles, an impish kid-who-ate-all-the-cookies grin that lights up her face and puts Julia Roberts to shame.
Over lunch at a Studio City restaurant down the street from her office, Tomlin admits she had daydreamed about a "West Wing" guest role, maybe as a tart-tongued pol modeled after former Texas Gov. Ann Richards.
"I liked the show immensely. I thought the writing was just terrific," she said of the NBC series (airing 9 p.m. EDT Wednesday) that received its third consecutive best drama Emmy Award last month.
Tomlin, 63, has approached other series she admired, gaining guest roles on "Homicide: Life on the Street" and a memorable "The X-Files" episode in which she and Ed Asner were paired as mischievous married ghosts.
"I thought it would be nice if I could suggest an idea to 'West Wing,' but then you let those things drift because you think, 'Well, I might get rejected. Maybe they don't even want me to be on the show.' "
'Lily would be great'
The planets aligned for her casting when Tomlin was appearing in a New York revival of "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe" and Thomas Schlamme, an executive producer of "The West Wing," was in the audience.
"A friend sat near Schlamme and heard him say, 'Lily would be great on the show,' " Tomlin recalled. "That really perked me up. Then I got on the case."
She didn't expect to follow Joosten -- "She's such a darling actress and funny" -- as top dog secretary but clearly relishes the role. She's scheduled to appear in 10 episodes this season.
"The language is very dense, filled with ideas and intelligence and observations and questions. And everybody's supposed to be extremely intelligent and fairly witty," she adds, with a small, self-mocking laugh.
She happily recites a choice bit of dialogue from the season's opening episode. "What I lack in memory I more than make up for in deductive reasoning," the president tells Fiderer during a rocky job interview.
Tomlin becomes the secretary for occasionally prickly Pres. Bartlet, played by Martin Sheen.
"Does that come with tights and a cape?" she replies, prompting an annoyed Bartlet to declare, "I think the meeting's over."
"Yes, but let's do this every once in a while," says the spunky Fiderer.
Colorful history
Make that spunky and mysterious. So far, we know that Fiderer was fired from a previous White House post because she stepped on bureaucratic toes helping Charlie (Dule Hill) get hired as the president's aide.
Fiderer's subsequent colorful job history of gambler and alpaca farmer have been sketched in, along with some evidence of political activism, but her personal life remains a cipher.
Tomlin is reluctant to reveal any unaired plot points, worried about offending "West Wing" creator Aaron Sorkin. She starts to relate the time she talked about notoriously secretive Woody Allen during production of his "Shadows and Fog" (1992), then stops.
"Don't let me digress because I can digress from here to the parking lot," she warns.
But that's part of the Tomlin charm, a stream-of-consciousness approach that echoes her theater work including "Intelligent Life," featuring Tomlin as more than a dozen different characters and written by longtime partner Jane Wagner. (Tomlin returns in the play next spring in Los Angeles.)
On stage, that translates to a flow of memorable lines including "I've always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific." In life, it means Tomlin jumps from describing the backstory she's created for Fiderer (she plans to post it on her Web site) to how she felt like a social nerd around "Tea with Mussolini" movie co-stars Maggie Smith and Cher to missed career opportunities.
For instance, she sorely wanted to appear on "The Lawrence Welk Show" in the guise of lounge singer Bobbi Jeanine and wrote to Britain's Prince Charles and Lady Diana in 1981 about another comic alter ego.
"I wanted to have Tommy Velour sing at their wedding," Tomlin said, smiling fondly at the thought of playing the cheesy guy with the pencil-thin mustache for royalty.
Mrs. Landingham would not have approved.
Mrs. Fiderer, however, just might.
Copyright 2002 The Associated Press.